Comments on Ambassador Watch: No martyrdom in Milwaukee

Don't give Mr. Geiger too much credit for an accou...

2007-02-11T06:16:00.000+13:00

Don't give Mr. Geiger too much credit for an account of what happened at or precipitated the shooting. He was NOT there. His son was there with relatives, but he was not, so there can be no "first hand account." Also, if you've read his book (which, btw, was discouraged by the LCG powers that be), you'll see it's more a "World According To Thomas Geiger" than an accounting of LCG and its innocense in all that happened.

Strangelly enough, one man in the LCG - Don Haynee...

2006-06-24T00:43:00.000+12:00

Strangelly enough, one man in the LCG - Don Haynee (teacher in the LCG at the time) - wrote an open letter following the shooting asking if, after all, it was not the Church's teaching - or at least the way you put it in practice - who was the ultimate cause of the drama.

Consequences? Don Haynee was critisized and fired by Mr Meredith!

A so narrow minded leader as Mr Meredith daring to say that he is a faithfull follower of Christ, and treating a man who just dare to ask some normal questions, is indeed strange. Even Christ did not do a thing like this, yet He had a more wicked man walking with him - Juda.

While I sympathize with those who died and those w...

2006-06-08T03:45:00.000+12:00

While I sympathize with those who died and those who were traumatized by this, I can't help but think of the simple Biblical term, "Reap what you sow."

The Armstrongite churches have been sowing the destruction of families, the breakdown of people's lives and hopes and has placed them in emotional, mental and spiritual bondage. They also have a certain appeal to the mentally unbalanced. I'm surprised, but relieved, that this doesn't happen more often.

Geiger's account of his son witnessing the shootin...

2006-05-29T18:14:00.000+12:00

Geiger's account of his son witnessing the shootings and his son also almost getting killed is definitely moving. I also found the entire situation a tragic experience for all those involved.

The sad part of the book is that it is mostly a defense of Meredithism/Armstrongism.

According to Geiger, the entire congregation knew Ratzman had mental problems yet not one of them ever told him to get professional counseling. Of course, Meredithism like Armstrongism looks down on psychologists/psychiatrists. Geiger talks about how Ratzman would do weird things around all the members and they would laugh it off.

I found his following excuse of Meredithism relationship to the murders to be one sad comment:

"If it truly is your position that the Living Church of God is to blame for what happened, then by that same thought process you would be forced to blame Christ's disciples for his crucifixion."

The main difference with Meredithism/Armstrongism and the disciples is that the latter group was actually following Jesus, while the former group does not. I mean, how can they? They can't even talk about him without mocking him. At least Geiger did not seem to have a problem with the crosses displayed at all the memorial services. Which stands in sharp contrast with Meredithism cult apologist Theil and his silly embarrassing tirade.