tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28426681.post3211943709921050903..comments2016-12-17T08:14:53.598+13:00Gavinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03060097218905523899noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28426681.post-79307867315407882612007-01-14T17:54:00.000+13:002007-01-14T17:54:00.000+13:00What! no mention of Mystery of Ages?. I just am completely shocked that none of you commenting here could overlook such a fine bible work as such.<br />PCG will undoubtably have something to say about this. After all it is the bible they use.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28426681.post-63885619119528718032007-01-11T17:15:00.000+13:002007-01-11T17:15:00.000+13:00One new help I am impressed with is the "Archaeological Study Bible: An Illustrated Walk Through Bibilical History and Culture." It is an NIV base, but the Archaelogy associated with the pages can bring some of what you study to life.<br /><br />I do too like the Companion Bible, although many if not all of the notes are based on the Sinai Manuscript and may, according to some, be somewhat spurious. There are times where Bullinger did change some of the KJV for some reason, unless he was using an earlier version for his basic Bible.<br /><br />I used to own the Expositors Bible Commentary, a very large multi-volume set. I decided to sell it when I read in more than one place where there was an odd usage of the word hupostasis or hypostasis. Apparently the hypostasis of Theology did not square the word when used in the Greek of the day.<br /><br />The Jaimeson Fawcett and Brown Commentary is pretty good, it uses the revised version for its Greek.<br /><br />Berry's Interlinear is a great tool to compare the Textus Receptus to other interlinears that use the Nestle's or other text types.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28426681.post-11481610754378062242007-01-11T04:24:00.000+13:002007-01-11T04:24:00.000+13:00Also check out scepticsannotatedbible.comAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28426681.post-38734326785443214492007-01-10T16:33:00.000+13:002007-01-10T16:33:00.000+13:00From "The Gnostic Gospels" by Elaine Paiges<br /><br />On page 75...<br />"Pope Leo the Great (c. 447) condemned such writings as the Acts of John as 'a hotbed of manifold perversity,' which 'should not only be forbidden, but entirely destroyed and burned with fire'. But because these heretical circles continued to copy and hide this text, the second Nicene Council, three hundred years later, had to repeat the judgment, directing that 'No one is to copy [this book]: not only so, but we consider that it deserves to be consigned to the fire.'"<br /><br />On page 120...<br />"The scholar Frederik Wisse has suggested that the monks who lived at the monastery of St. Pachomius, within sight of the cliff where the texts were fond, may have included the Nag Hammadi texts within their devotional library. But in 367 when Athanasisus, the powerful Archbishop of Alexandria, sent an order to purge all 'apocryphal books' with 'heretical' tendencies, one (or several) of the monks may have hidden the precious manuscripts in the jar and buried it on the cliff of the Jabal al-Tarif, where Muhammad 'Ali found it 1600 years later." <br /><br />Would you like me to go on?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28426681.post-30406786846519550712007-01-09T16:37:00.000+13:002007-01-09T16:37:00.000+13:00"They were never edited by the good folks at Nicea and they escaped the book burnings that characterized the rise of Orthodoxy."<br /><br />Sorry friend, but Dan Brown's book is a work of fiction. Try getting your history from some legitimate sources. No sacred books were edited or expunged or tampered with at the Council of Nicaea, which didn't address the biblical canon at all. Also, there were no book burnings associated with the rise of Orthodoxy.<br /><br />I own The Nag Hammadi Library, and when you read those texts it's pretty obvious why Gnosticism died out and why those texts were buried in a hole in the ground like the religious dung they are. Still, as historical artifacts they are priceless treasures, and it's a great blessing they survived to our day, if for no other reason than to show just how sick and twisted or just downright foolish human religion can get. On the other hand, there should be more than enough modern examples to be able to teach us that lesson even without the help of texts from a long-dead religion.Jared Olarnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28426681.post-37840274342711664162007-01-09T16:00:00.000+13:002007-01-09T16:00:00.000+13:00Fred Coulter is my benchmark.<br /><br /><br />Jorgheinzjorgheinzhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12464471056433490728noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28426681.post-31138464248471392762007-01-09T15:36:00.000+13:002007-01-09T15:36:00.000+13:00May I suggest something more interesting? Learn to read video codecs!<br />For your pleasure I present><br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Codec<br />Kscribe.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28426681.post-52031740411517327312007-01-09T14:45:00.000+13:002007-01-09T14:45:00.000+13:00As we all know, the Bible has not been updated for over 2,000 years. A friend on another forum recommended the Urantia Book. It is indeed quite interesting. <br /><br />Since we were practically required to be anti-Catholic as good upstanding Armstrongites, we were denied the pleasures of the deuterocanonical books present in the Catholic Bible. To catch up on my reading, I aquired a New American Bible, and have enjoyed reading the so-called Apocrypha.<br /><br />I must comment that I really don't think much of the HIV Bible, though.<br /><br />BBByker Bobnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28426681.post-4250902758686340852007-01-09T12:15:00.000+13:002007-01-09T12:15:00.000+13:00Sanctified ignorance is, of course, still ignorance regardless of which translation one uses. The most accurate translation of the mythology of Adam and Eve, Noah and the Ark, Jonah and many other such things and subsequent doctrinal declarations based on them, being taken as real, does not promote reality.<br /><br />The most accurate rendition of the such stories as that of the Exodus or the subsequent history of Israel when there is precious little evidence of it really happening that way, or at all, does not promote truth. <br /><br />Isaac Asimov said that the best evidence against the Bible is found in the Bible, so I suspect having the very best and most accurate translation on earth would raise the quality of the material to be questioned to new heights. Having an original copy of a fairy tale does not...well you know. <br /><br />It's the story behind the stories that is the most fascinating...Dennishttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09976439820341436608noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28426681.post-30284682446289569002007-01-09T10:48:00.000+13:002007-01-09T10:48:00.000+13:00Goatherders come and goatherders go but their word keeps on being translated, transliterated, interpolated, extrapolated, revised, revamped, improved and retranslated - over and over and over ad nauseam.<br /><br />The strange thing is, it all comes out the same - no one has a clue what it means or how to properly interpret it. Gee Whiz, ya reckon that might be the cause of 34,800 cults, sects and denominations of Christendom? <br /><br />However, I've come to a conclusion that absolutely all atheists agree with - it's all bullshit.The Ex-Christadelphianhttp://home.earthlink.net/~corkymc/index.htmlnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28426681.post-90437483863597619242007-01-09T06:31:00.000+13:002007-01-09T06:31:00.000+13:00I would also like to suggest the following<br /><br />The Nag Hammadi Library by James M. Robinson<br /><br />A large clay jar containing 12 codices plus 8 leaves was found in Egypt in 1945. The clay jar had been buried in the Egyptian desert sometime in the fourth century. The codices and leaves hold 42 separate tractates. Most of these books (tractates) had never been seen in modern times! They are unique discoveries much like the Dead Sea Scrolls. The original copies had long since been destroyed by Orthodox Christianity. <br /><br />The books were translated from Coptic by an international team of scholars.<br /><br />The most important thing about these books is that they did not go thought the filter of Nicea. They were never edited by the good folks at Nicea and they escaped the book burnings that characterized the rise of Orthodoxy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28426681.post-51710153886447025232007-01-09T04:21:00.000+13:002007-01-09T04:21:00.000+13:00Thanks, Gavin, for the helpful advice. Any good study Bibles that use the Revised English Bible (REB)version?AW fannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28426681.post-19525509589215759112007-01-09T04:05:00.000+13:002007-01-09T04:05:00.000+13:00For the serious, nothing can beat <b>free</b> from the Rick Ross website http://www.e-sword.net/ where you can download a couple dozen Bible versions and quite a number of comentaries, all integrated into a single software product. <br /><br />Some copyrighted works are for sale, but for a modest price.<br /><br />There are an unbelievable number of features, including maps. It's all free, except for some items which are not.<br /><br />There are even NASA photos which clearly show the fruit of two different ways of life: The diligent Israelis whose land is clearly shown in verdant green, whereas, the Arab states show desert lands right at the political borders.<br /><br />For those who really want value, using the downloads from http://www.e-sword.net/ is certainly worthwhile.Douglas Beckerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01344539216802653999noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28426681.post-34862620631886902812007-01-09T03:25:00.000+13:002007-01-09T03:25:00.000+13:00I too highly recommend The Companion Bible by E. W. Bullinger.<br /><br />It is the favorite darling of the Christian Churches of God, primarily because his commentaries support the heresies of Wade Ewart Cox -- and you can certainly see the value in that: Lots of weird stuff no self-respecting Christian could begin to support.Douglas Beckerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01344539216802653999noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28426681.post-20850595328972682602007-01-09T03:09:00.000+13:002007-01-09T03:09:00.000+13:00I also agree that the TransLine is amazing and worth the great effort to obtain it. I own it and consider it to be the best NT period. It is all pith and no fluff.<br /><br />Another study bible you might try would be The Companion Bible by EW Bullinger. The cons are that the typeface is a real pain to read, and it is KJV. The pros are that there are insights in it you will never find in any other bible (not even close). Also Bullinger does try to correct for KJV's failings. EW Bullinger was a world renowned linguist in his day. His work is still greatly valued by modern linguists.Lylehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06604081348336261959noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28426681.post-59660400645324789592007-01-09T02:52:00.000+13:002007-01-09T02:52:00.000+13:00Try the Transline Translation. Might be hard to get now, but you will be surprised. (N.T. only)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com