Comments on Ambassador Watch: Death cult?

The really extraordinary paradox in the Armstrongi...

2006-09-19T08:48:00.000+12:00

The really extraordinary paradox in the Armstrongite implementation of the "healing doctrine" is that it is not applied consistently. In the Armstrongite realm, there is an enormous difference between taking organic supplements and taking antibiotics, for instance. Yet why should this be? In the case of both, one is relying on some external treatment instead of trusting purely in God. As I recall, Herman Hoeh once observed that there was no spiritual difference in relying on antibiotics for treatment and relying on organic Vitamin C. Both fell into the same category of external factors.

The result of this inadequately thought out principle is that some Armstrongites will take a sick person to a chiropracter rather than to a surgeon. Somehow organic supplements, chiropracty, naturopathy and a whole host of other interventions are acceptable. But traditional medicine is an intervention that is unacceptable. But both are categories of intervention and both violate the Armstrongite view of faith.

After Rod Meredith had his retina reattached, surgery became pretty much "corrective" and was permissible among Armstrongites. (Although I heard a minister back in the Seventies at Big Sandy state that the healing gift within the WCG began to wane due to RCM's surgery.)

I am not certain how Armstrongites now sort out this confusing cluster of viewpoints. I am glad I am not burdened with it.

-- Neo

I'm so disturbed by this that I've e-mailed one of...

2006-09-18T03:44:00.000+12:00

I'm so disturbed by this that I've e-mailed one of the leading TV investigative reporters in Oklahoma about it, mentioning this blog.

The District Attorney in OKC can look into this. Well, make that should.

The hell will always be with Gerald, always.

2006-09-17T20:25:00.000+12:00

The hell will always be with Gerald, always.

When you stand to get all the money from the dead ...

2006-09-16T13:09:00.000+12:00

When you stand to get all the money from the dead member's estate, why tell them to see an expensive doctor when you can spend all of their money on a crystal chandelier & six pack tonight, without having to wait?

Perhaps a curse should be put on one who leads oth...

2006-09-16T10:40:00.000+12:00

Perhaps a curse should be put on one who leads others to their death through a perverted gospel..did not Paul pronounce a DOUBLE CURSE upon those who mishandled the word.

God expects us to use our noggin
and not let others do our thinking for us.

People died in the good 'ole WCG days because they "trusted God" for healing. Ah,God will heal in the Millenium they used to say when the person died,even after anointing.I was a former member of WCG..our family has had professors of anatomy and medicine going back to the 1500s, with no end of medical professors and doctors around the world today.And these people DO save lives.

Christ himself said the sick need a physician, and "is there no balm in Gilead"?.HWA and Flurry have missed something,here.We believe that Herb had medical treatment whilst allowing his blind sheep to die in more ways than one.
Herb lost his wife because of his irrefrangible attitude towards healing.Loma could have had more years but chose not to.

And the writer himself has had years of experience within the pharmaceutical industry.And these drugs do save lives.And side effects do have to be measured against benefits,and on balance the lives of millions of people have been improved because of prescription drugs and often saved and prolonged.

I wonder if Flurry's blinded followers ever think of what hurt their perverse gospel is doing to themselves and to their minds?This is the more important thing. Are they capable of thinking or is it that their entire cerebral apparatus is contained within their organ of hearing?

Maybe they will learn one day.

These people have blood on their hands. God gave u...

2006-09-16T08:43:00.000+12:00

These people have blood on their hands. God gave us the ability to figure things out for ourselves. He could miraculously feed us loaves and fishes every day, but doesn't. He expects us to do what we can to feed ourselves -- and to feed others who cannot feed themselves. Similarly with medicine, He expects us to use our noggin and to make wise and well-informed choices -- with all the attendant risks. But it is the height of irresponsibility to limit God by saying He is unable to work through the skill and competence of medical professionals. We can fly and sail because of the skill of engineers and others -- we don't refuse to travel unless we can miraculously ascend to the sky or walk on water. How ridiculous would that be? Yet this absurd and willful refusal to avail oneself of medical skill is, tragically, deadly.