Leaving and Cutting all Ties.

John reports in on his progress after leaving Tkaches circus sideshow some years ago. Breaking ties isn’t always a easy thing to do. Especially those who latch on to you and won’t let go…


Hello James

I hope this email finds you well.

Not much to report, in a sense, it seems that everywhere (in my country) people are running around like headless chickens.

I’ve had somewhat success in my consulting business; certainly I have dealt with a few major international players. I guess I just need one major breakthrough right now to give me some much needed momentum

My connections to WWCoG will soon turn to cob-webs; recently I was asked by my last WWCoG contact to remove the last of my (expensive) music equipment from his store – now the thing is it was convenient to store the stuff there, the wanker stays about 10 minutes from my current residence.

Now, the stuff only took up a small bit of space, maybe about one square meter, but was safely locked away and protected from rain etc – considering the small amount of space on his big property, it was a bit strange re his request, but of course it just prompted me to store the equipment in one of my big stores which I have now rented for this purpose.

The wanker always seems to have some kind of agenda; hence his request might have been some attempt to get me over to his place. When I arrived, his wife proceeded to butt in and get the feather duster and in an inappropriate way prevent me from just moving the stuff, loading it up and getting the hell out of there – they tend to get me all claustrophobic, especially when they pretend to “help” –

While I was moving the stuff to my vehicle they wax eloquent and tell me how I can sell the stuff on ebay etc – despite our 20 year connection they still don’t get it: I have no intention of selling the stuff, they are collectibles and increase in value, and have no need for any such “advice” –

I think I know what I am doing re my personal stuff and my personal situation.

They do the same thing re my 1981 450 SLC Mercedes, always asking me “when you going to sell it?”

W-T-F?

Have they spent 10 years restoring it? Have they painstakingly searched for parts, year after year, so as not to blow the budget I have estimated for the car? Have they searched for manuals and technical expertise, to ensure the damn thing is done right?

No, they have no such ambition or ability, and continue to be strapped to the “bible way” of doing things – ie submitting to slavery and being unable to escape.

I have never heard this wanker say anything positive about his son; his son is very successful, at least from a financial point of view – his father  always runs him down, and likes to tel me how his son is going the wrong way – yet he has recently admitted to me that he has financial problems, but brags how he is not affected, YET at the same time his rich son buys him a brand new vehicle – which he then accepts – hypocritical, I would say – if his son is on the WRONG PATH, then why accept the FRUITS of that wrong path? Ie the new vehicle? – is his faith then not failing? I mean boast and be critical on the one hand, and then accept the hand of one who is on the wrong path to bale him out!

Hypocrisy!

It recently came to my attention that he convinced his daughter and her husband to move in with them, because of their financial problem, ie they will now pay some rent because they will now be staying at this wanker’s place.

Anyway, as was loading my music equipment into my vehicle, next thing his wife has a go at me and says that they “are very concerned” because I seem to be very angry at the church, don’t attend the wanker’s bible studies etc etc –

W-T-F!

I left WWCoG 13 years ago, and definitively do NOT discuss any WWCoG issues with them, because I know where it will end – despite the fact that they have left WWCoG,  they stll have issues, yet boast how they have “overcome the church”, have no ill feelings etc etc.

On the one hand they boast how they have left the church etc, then the wanker affirms that HWA “was the closest to the truth” – it is a case of severe schizophrenia – they project all their crap on to other people and accuse them of the very things they are guilty of

When I loaded the last of my equipment onto my vehicle, all of a sudden they are desperately inviting me in for tea, as if they sense they may not see me again.

I just made a hasty retreat out of there – on the way to my store,  for about 15 minutes I was swearing and cursing, then after that I strong sense of relief came over me.

Fuck, now they have no hold over me in any way – no need for that stifling doom and gloom atmosphere – to this day they are UNAWARE of the stifling, claustrophobic effect they have on people –

Their poor daughter and son-in-law; they have been manipulated by this wanker to give up their more that suitable accommodation and move in with them  – it won’t be long before the shouting and screaming commences – they believe they have superior inter-personal skills, despite the screaming matches that ensue when their family gets together – and that’s only concerning short visits – I can only imagine what will happen after a few months of hell living together.

Well, that’s one thorn out of my flesh, anyway

(SIGH)

John

Society of Christians Under Men: SCUM!

Hello James – –

It’s already 13 years since I exited WWCoG – how time flies when you’re having fun ): ):

It’s been a slow crawl; building your life from nothing is quite a task.

In my consulting business I have to be VERY ACCURATE-

often I have to give bad news, which needs to be presented in many cases

to an executive board.

Very seldom have I been challenged concerning these results,

although certainly you have to be ready should you be asked to elaborate.

I thus have a reputation for accuracy, an important part of doing

business on a corporate level.

Therefore I think my accuracy extends to other areas, such as
my evaluation of the typical “christian” church or society-

Society of Christians Under Men: SCUM:

I agree with your evaluation as per your last email.

Christians/churches typically attack the secular;

it is a “tool of satan” or a “counterfeit of the world”

However, it is the secular that unravels christianity;

in many cases christianity has been shown to a
system of superstition, a system of fear, a system
of compliance.
Karl Marx said that religion is the opiate of the people;
this principle can be extended to many systems today;
in many cases citizens “keep the law” because of fear,
or consequences of not keeping the law- these systems
also lead to bureaucracy, which in too many cases is a
system of arbitrary laws, such as whether one can do business
or not.
Much of the “peace” of society comes not from brotherhood,
but from compliance, the sheep instinct- when the sheep
are completely opiated they will not so much as lift a finger-
the excuse being that we must follow the law, or that it is the
responsibility of the authorities or “government” or sort everything out.
It is the SECULAR in many cases that dared to cast some ripples
on the seas; imagine being cast into prison for claiming that the earth
revolves around the sun- you would think that there were more relevant
high-profile criminals to be made an example of-
One gets the impression that the “true” criminal is the one who dares to
challenge society, one who dares to challenge philosophy is thrown
into prison.
Those who commit murder and rape etc are seen as minor threats to those
in charge; after all one who kills ten people will hardly make a dent
in the fabric of the governing powers- but let ONE MAN write a book
cataloging some organization’s corruption, and he probably won’t love long-
The pen is indeed mightier than the sword, the pen is one of the tools of that
dreaded “secular” – it is the pen that unraveled parts of the catholic church- it is the secular that provided the individual with freedom of expression, the ability to think for himself- once the secular provided the means to read and write the INDIVIDUAL had the potential to be something other than a willing slave
Now and again I bump into seemingly well-meaning church-type people;
it is not long and suddenly they want to “pray for me”, they think that they
have some special ability to fix the problems of society-
They ASSUME that a candid discussion about the challenges and problems
of business and society REQUIRES such action from them;
YET no advice was asked for, in under a minute they are jumping in offering solutions, despite the immense complexity and difficulties out there, many of these self-professing “fix-its” think that they have special powers- despite the fact that they are extremely lacking in managerial, operational, technical and other skills!!!
Unfortunately, too many “church-goers” are only there to make up for deficiencies lack of skills and qualifications on their side- they think that feeling “warm and fuzzy” once a week in some church is the solution-
  Really?
Exactly HOW do churches address the lack of skills that we find in society?
HOW do they address abuse? How do they address lack of leadership?
How do they address a 50% divorce rate? How do they address financial
and economic problems?
By feeling warm and fuzzy once a week;
psychology has shown that a constant repetition of warm and fuzzy feelings
amounts to an addiction;
hence the REPETITION of the sunday gay/effeminate meetings.
No wonder so many men cannot come up with a single concrete action plan
to clean up their mess…
Regards,
John

Feedback From a Reader II. The Spiritual State.

This is a continuation of my correspondence with “John Smith.”


Hello James – –

You really have the skill of hitting the nail on the head;

BROTHERHOOD indeed!

“To answer your question, “Are There any sane X-World-Widers Out There?” the answer is a few. If they leave the group, give up
religion, these people have a tendency to be decent then.

But if they were low-lifers to begin with, then they remain the
same. Some fucking brotherhood eh? My experience is that the whole fucking lot of them are a bunch of moronic fools with the exception of a few.”

PT Editor,
James

One would think that those attending some kind of church would at least understand the basic principles of BROTHERHOOD –

The net result of WWCoG proves that there never was any brotherhood;

even today if I mention the tragedy of the WWCoG divorce doctrine,

the die-hards smugly retort something like “oh no those things are exaggerations” etc etc

or “god hates divorce” – – – funny, the doctrine CAUSED divorce, but the members are more interested in a bunch of rules than the welfare of their brethren!

Tearing apart a stable family makes no sense by any stretch of the imagination – yet this is justified by apparently “keeping the law” – such things should cause a reaction of DISGUST in the average person, but in WWCoG you just get a vague shrug of the shoulders and remarks like “well what is the church? The church is made of people, so you can’t blame the church” etc etc

As far as the law is concerned, Jesus Christ, the man who christians claim to follow said something like:

Forget about the law of bringing your sacrifice to the alter: go and make right with your brother FIRST:

THEN bring your sacrifice!!!

WWCoG had it in reverse!

The law only makes sense in the context of BROTHERHOOD!

You are right about your assessment of WWCoG; there were a lot of disgusting people to begin with:

the SECULAR is seen by the churches as some evil thing, however what is really going on is that the SECULAR is a THREAT to the churches, once people could read and write the churches were forced to overhaul their practices –

Today, the secular tools show for example that PEOPLE OF FEATHER FLOCK TOGETHER – this is also a basic principle of PSYCHOLOGY (the traditional “tool of Satan” – a lot of the modern management research that I have done
advises to GET RID OF THE DEAD-WOOD – ie people who are not serving you must be cut off –

This should also be a natural consequence, tying in with the principle of “natural selection” and “survival of the fittest” –

The churches try to circumvent this natural consequence, by forcing a bunch of sheep together, cutting of all independent thought and turning the members into automatons – after a few years you have a collection of “goodly sheep” –

a flock that has been emasculated and is fully complaint!

I call this DANCING FOR THE CAMERAS – like the politicians, there are too many people who just go along year after year PRETENDING everything is hunky-dory –

Some would also call our society’s behavior  SUICIDE BY INSTALLMENTS!

Well, that’s my 2 cents for today

Meanwhile, I have to sort these legal issue out (SIGH!)

After that, I would say my days with WWCoG are just about done

Regards,
John

 

Feedback From a Reader

Hello James – – –

You have a way of hitting the nail on the head;

isn’t that what “truth” is about?

<<The reality is that the Armstrongists cannot even maintain their bonds within the
various COG community’s, nor bring us closer to God, or generally work to the betterment of Man and society.

It is indeed amazing how they still pimp out Herbie who’s when dead
since 1986. But mention Jesus and they turn on you.>>

 

that is about the sum of it;

they cannot maintain their bonds within their communities –

it is bizarre that they can still “pump (or is that pimp) from the podium,

yet are utterly incapable of making any positive change in people’s lives –

Of course “Jesus” should encapsulate the truth of what he said about the
religion of the time “well spoke Moses of you” etc – –

it fits the WWCoG mold perfectly – the actual fruits prove that HWA was a liar:
“Re 21:8  But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.”

 

To this day, I cannot stand anything false, or the many liars we come across in our communities.

I would rather listen to something that is unpleasant and is true, than to something that is pleasant, and is a lie.

 

Attached you will find an article by Bertrand Comparet; while definitely a short article one cannot claim that HWA “copied” this, but a short scan of the article shows similar kind of thinking to HWA, and Comparet was around in HWA’s time – almost certainly HWA will have known about Comparet – he also covered such subjects as the sabbath etc – in my opinion someone like Comparet would have caused less damage than HWA –because his application of the sabbath question was not as destructive –

 

With the Internet, it becomes more and more clear that even such subjects like sabbath and holy days were

tackled more responsibility by certain groups – with NO CONNECTION TO HWA – many such groups have professed that not keeping a holy day or sabbath did not damn anyone – such groups profess that these days are “shadows” and that Christ (“Jesus”) is the reality – some groups have admitted that certain members would “pout and sulk” during christmas – they admitted that cutting themselves off from family during christmas time was not the wisest!


Again, no connection to HWA, but if only HWA had had this more lenient approach to these subjects!


I also believe that Comparet and some of his “followers” were against church government and tithing

This research of mine has proved undoubtedly that the supposed “exclusiveness” of HWA, restoring truths etc is complete bunkum !!!

 

While HWA lived, there were many INDEPENDENT GROUPS that covered a whole spectrum of subjects such as sabbaths, holy days, prophecy, laws and statutes, the identity of Israel, the gospel = the kingdom etc etc etc

 
I could probably find 100 groups on the Internet now that even today cover at least a part of this spectrum  –
Why should this not be the case? Can other church members all over the world not read?
HWA and his followers think they are the only ones who ever read the old testament –
 
James, thanks for your encouragement:

<<I am pleased you got your consulting business going. There is nothing better than having the freedom to work on your own, doing what you want to do and when>>

I never get such responses form “christians/churchgoers” – my best long term friend is an atheist(!) who has moved back to UK now – he will sometimes send me an email with links to a site that he knows will interest me – he can only do this since he has actually taken the trouble to find out what MY interest are – when do “Christians” do this?

Whenever I get the chance, and I speak to any church minister, I tell them clearly that Christianity is a farce: the members do not practice any of that stuff that they profess – I offer them this “solution”:

I say give every christian in your church/community a copy of Dale Carnegie’s “How to win friends and influence people” – put this book next to their bible, read it and go and practice that stuff for TWO YEARS – only then can they claim to know anything about Christianity!

Well, that’s my 2 cents worth for today

All the best,

John

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