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      Dear Douglas

      Is it true that Graner Ted Armstrong masturbated in front of the masseur?

      Is it true that Garner Ted Armstrong did not use any birth control when he had sex with the

      students at Ambassador College?

      Please advise.


      Martin O


      Sorry Martin, no one here names Douglas. However you can watch the video and make up your own mind here.

      As far as condom use with AC females goes, I don't know.



      (Martin writes again.)

      Is it true that Garner Ted Armstrong had sex with fellow students at the Ambassador College?

      Did he make any students pregnant? So where are the children?

      How true is that accusation?


      How true is that accusation?
      Well there is a lot of testimonies about that on the
      PT. Use the
      search engine on the site to discover your answers.
      Did he make any students pregnant?
      Besides his wife I do not recall.



      I found your website a few days ago when I was trying to research The Restored Church of God, which is one of the many splinter groups of Worldwide and "the only true church of God." I was wondering if you could direct me to other sites that have more information on this specific group, or also on David C. Pack or his harsh assistant James Turck.  As I'd really like to know if anyone else has been treated as harshly by this "church" because I've never felt so crushed in my entire life.
      What does one do next?  Can the government do anything about these mind controlling  "churches"?

      Thank you for your time and for your site, maybe you can save people from joining if you expose them enough as I wish I found your site sooner.




      From the tone of your letter, I take it you got burnt by the RCG.
      Below are some links that may help you. Type in "Dave Pack"
      bookmark: Armstrong Follower Held In Murder of Daughter

      On James Turck, I can find nothing except his sermons. On the
      subject as to what can be done with these cults, you may want to
      consider the term "Undue Influence." Each case that is bought
      against a corporate church is considered on the merits of
      deception. Check with your lawyer.
      Here is a link:

      Now you want to know what to do after exiting the RCG? The first
      thing is not to panic or allow guilt to have its way with you.
      Remember how your mind was conditioned.

      "There is simply no proper
      or honorable way to leave the cult. Period. To leave is to fail, to
      die, to be defeated by evil. To leave is to invite divine

      "Members are often taught that all kinds of bad things will happen
      to them if they leave: They will lose all of the spiritual progress
      that they made while they were in the cult, or they won't be able
      to get into Heaven, or the Devil or demons will get them, or they
      will relapse and die of drugs and alcohol... That is another
      standard cult characteristic: The Cult Implants Phobias."

      Also may I suggest the book "Churches That Abuse" by Ronald M. Enroth.

      Now, Alice, do you have a story to tell? We would love to post it.
      Remember that to fight evil one must stand up to it! Let me know.



      I am a survivor of the RCG and the WCG. I 'grew up' . . . was reared in the RCG/WCG from 1954 to 1994. I am so thankful to see that I wasn't crazy afterall. This website is such a blessing.

      Thank you.


      Thank you for writing. We do not often have stories coming out of the RCG. If you have a story you would like to tell, I would be more than happy to publish it. Please give it some thought.




      The Bible is errant, and a way was provided to compensate for that fact.

      The Bible twice declares that it is errant. The first declaration is
      Matthew 13:33 which reads, "Another parable spake he unto them; The
      kingdom of heaven is like unto leaven, which a woman took, and hid in
      three measures of meal, till the whole was leavened." The second
      declaration is Luke 13:21 which reads, "It is like leaven, which a woman
      took and hid in three measures of meal, till the whole was leavened."

      A way to compensate for the errancy was thrice mentioned. The first
      mention was at Deuteronomy 19:15 which reads, "One witness shall not
      rise up against a man for any iniquity, or for any sin, in any sin that
      he sinneth: at the mouth of two witnesses, or at the mouth of three
      witnesses, shall the matter be established." The second was at Matthew
      18:16 which reads, "But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee
      one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word
      may be established." The third mention was at 2 Corinthians 13:1 which
      reads, "This is the third time I am coming to you. In the mouth of two
      or three witnesses shall every word be established." Their commonality,
      which is the way to remove the leaven, reads, "In the mouth of two or
      three witnesses shall every word be established."

      Thanking you for your attention to this topic, and welcoming your
      George Elliott.

      What's your point George? Looking for a pissing match?




      Hello James:

      My point was that the Bible provided a way to remove the errors in it.

      Thanks for your previous reply,






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