"Dr. Bob Thiel is one of the world’s foremost authorities on the events likely to occur in the months leading up to and after December 21, 2012. Dr. Thiel’s exhaustive research of nearly a dozen ancient culture’s prophecies— including the Mayan, Hindu, I Ching, Buddhist and Islamic plans – reveals the chilling timeline of events surrounding 2012."The geniuses at Whispers Radio have ordained Bob Thiel, Th.D (Kochi, India) as a world authority. Uh... Now how come the spiritual giants at LCG HQ in Charlotte haven't realized this yet?
Whispers is the Ohio Valley’s only source for paranormal talk radio... Jordan and Nick bring the best guests in the paranormal world to WKKX... Topics range from ghosts to cryptozoology to UFOs, as well as others that fall into the general paranormal realm.
Wow, talk about credibility; Bob, you've set a whole new benchmark!
Anyway, here's the show. Bob brings his outstanding expertise to bear in the second half of the program (around 47 minutes), after the lady talking about auras, harmonics and indigo children ("Am I too way out for ya, ha ha.") I guess she's a foremost authority too, huh?
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Interesting, and so extremely revealing, how ardent self-promoting supernaturalists like Ron Weinland and Bob Thiel must go begging with bowl in hand to the dregs of the media world in order to get the attention and accolades they so obviously lust after (such as "world's foremost authority") lavished upon them.
Again I ask, how can any normal-thinking person actually take these bozos, and what they spout, seriously?
Oh, that’s right, I forgot – the audience they aim their messages at don’t think, or if they do, “think” in terms of auras, New Age crystals, UFO’s, Loch Ness monsters, black helicopters, conspiracy theories…and imaginary supernatural beings like Yawah, angels and demons!
I personally will not consider Bob to be an authority unless Iam assured that he has an ionic foot detoxifyer and strongly believes in the physics of ear candleing.
My personal book, "2014-What the Goat Entrails Tell Us and Why It is Important" is almost complete. Just have to find a willing goat and adjust the guts in just the right way to say whatever it will need to say to sell books. I guess we can call it fudging the guts to achieve desired results.
I am charging $20.14 for the book but can discount down to $20.12 and at the end, when it's obvious I was wrong, will sell for $20.08
:)
Gavin noted: "after the lady talking about auras, harmonics and indigo children..."
Four hours into a recent sermon and leading to a very special view of himself, David C Pack announced:
"And yes brethren...I too am an Indigo Child."
:)
Interesting that he said "Catholic prophecy" is one of his 3 major sources.
Never mind Bob Thiel -- read Wally Smith brag about beating his kids.
So "training" is the new euphemism for spanking/corporal punishment in LCG? Good to know.
What? He couldn't get on Art Bell's show like every other kook?
Anonymous
Please point out where Wally Smith said he spanked his child.You're reading that into what he said.
What he said was that once during his sermon when his wife was out of the room he had to get down from the lectern to correct the child. He would not spank a child in front of the whole church and he surely would not have taken that much time from his sermon.He simply got down and talked the boy and quickly got back to his sermon.
This is how rumour is spread and people get a bad name please be careful what you report. I am hoping Gavin posts this but- well i'm sure he will.
Relax
close shave!
Hell yeah! He even looks like a foremost authority.
This world sure is full-o-nuts and I'm sure they're not all candy bars. Some are chocolate covered cookies at a candy bar price.
There's fake every damn thing, isn't there? A rip-off on every corner.
How can there be people so stupid as to believe these whack-o type book sellers? Don't people need at least half a brain for their heart to keep on beating and to not stop breathing?
Amazingly, I used to think that the average human I.Q. was about a hundred. Now, I realize that it is a lot lower than that.
Has anybody else noticed that Dr. Thiel bears a striking resemblance to Lee Harvey Oswald? Even has the same haircut!
"What he said was that once during his sermon when his wife was out of the room he had to get down from the lectern to correct the child."
WHAT WALLY SAID:
"Of course, in the earlier days, there were times when my wife and I would spend most of the Sabbath service time in the hall (or in whatever area we could find)training them. We felt that if we took one of the kids out for being noisy, the goal of taking them out was not to just let them cut loose but to have more freedom in training them without distracting others around us."
If you don't think Wally is talking about spanking here, you really aren't a truly converted member of LCG.
Looks like Rod "Spanky" Meredith's nickname is still well-earned by the presiding evangelist of "(Give those brats a) Licking Church of God".
So the Packster sees himself as a special “Indigo Child” huh? – the dread coming together of COG nonsense and New Age bovine excretement!
This could prove interesting, it probably being only a matter of time before Deluded Dave under the inspiration of his Dopey Deity tries to lead his followers into a tragic Jonestown-like situation, with a COG spin put on it, of course.
To be frank, I had never heard of the term “Indigo Child” before, so I did a very quick check on Wikipedia, and here’s an excerpt I found revealing:
“Many children labeled ‘indigo’ are diagnosed with attention-deficit hyperactivity disorder. Skeptics suggest that the indigo phenomenon is due to parents preferring to believe their children are special, rather than having a medical diagnosis which implies damage or imperfection.”
So, once again, we observe that evasion of reality lay at the very base of this New Age nonsense. I wonder why we humans are so historically prone toward deeming those with various mental illnesses, and ailments such as epilepsy or learning disabilities as somehow “divinely special?”
Dennis, you seem to be more well-read than I one this particular topic - any insights you'd like to share?
Gavin raises a very good point here, although he doesn't come fully out and say it (for once?!).
Why isn't Bob Thiel speaking on LCG's Tomorrow's World if he knows so much about this stuff?
Anonymous 07:31:00 PM NZD said, "Has anybody else noticed that Dr. Thiel bears a striking resemblance to Lee Harvey Oswald? Even has the same haircut!"
MY COMMENT - Now that you mention it, yes, Thiel's resemblance to Lee Harvey Oswald is remarkable. And the resemblance doesn't end with him physically looking like Oswald either. Like Oswald, Thiel is a patsy. He is a patsy in a larger Armstrongite conspiracy to churn more profits on "the end times".
The Armstrongites have been predicting time is short and Christ's return is right around the corner my entire lifetime.
They have cried wolf way too many times to be taken seriously.
Richard
I was teasing about Dave being an Indigo Child. I meant it as a fact that whenever Dave finds a great title that points to his own specialness he tends to take the title to himself. However, the def. of Indidigo Child medically may be more accurate than I thought.
The mental condition and quirkiness of some of the more prominent COG leaders has always fascinated me. One can do a study of the traits that Bible men such as Isaiah, Jeremiah and Ezekiel had, along with perhaps even the Apostle Paul, they tend to scream some kind of mental illness.
I have always wondered how much religion is based on the unrecognized mental illnesses of those who are endeavoring to act spiritual, or who at least, the public can't explain and so credit them with specialness.
I have always said, a man with mental illness can hide well in a church because their quirkiness looks like some kind of unexplicable spirituality and they are given the benefit of the doubt.
Many rise to great heights on the backs of others through narcissism as we know.
Leonardo wonders 'why we humans are so historically prone toward deeming those with various mental illnesses, and ailments such as epilepsy or learning disabilities as somehow “divinely special?”'
'Historically prone' is the right way to put it. For example, the word 'silly' derives from the Old English 'saelig,' which meant 'fortunate, blessed.' The expression 'touched in the head' is based on the medieval idea that a person touched by God will think in mystifying ways. Theologically, someone who irrationally chooses to place trust in the deity is sometimes praised for being 'a fool for god' or 'god's fool.'
So our linguistic forebears were at this long before the word 'special' became fashionable to describe kids who couldn't keep up in school.
As for why we do it, I don't have any deep insight. Surface explanation is, stupidity is just another unpleasantness we try to smooth over with good thoughts and euphemisms, like death, disease, and excrement.
In light of this idea, the 'god's fool' notion is especially interesting. People who hold it acknowledge that their theology is crazy and claim that the craziness is what makes it worth believing. A long way to stretch a euphemism, in my opinion.
Dennis, I composed my previous comment including the concept of 'a fool for god' before yours was posted. Let me add that it looks like you're onto something here.
NZD said, "Has anybody else noticed that Dr. Thiel bears a striking resemblance to Lee Harvey Oswald? Even has the same haircut!"
I too find the resemblence uncanny. Could it be that Lee Harvy and Bobby T are one and the same? Is Bobby's wife named Marina? Could there be some kind of cover up here? If this is indeed true, will Bobby be stipped of his Th.D? Will spankie jettison this radio celebrity? Will Bobby finally make it to the Art Bell show? How does this affect the mental stability of Ronnie "the Propeller" Wineland? Will Davie Pack counter with a Five hour sermon? The mind boggles at the possible repercussions.
Hey Questeruk (otherwise known as Anon 2:37)! Did you see how Wally so neatly evaded the issue? Did you read in the comments about the "stern talking-to" one of the members' ministers gave her about her kids?b Did you notice the use of the word "boundaries"?
Wally is not so unaware of the "Satan-deceived world" around him, that he would admit on the Internet to spanking his children. But you, I, and everyone else here knows that's what they're talking about, in those disgusting comments.
Isn't that like being one of the world's foremost authorities on the weather for March 3, 2011?
Paul's symptoms on the road to Damascus, as story which he does not himself ever tell but rather says he was called from his mother's womb like Jesus and Jeremiah, have all the hallmarks of temporal lobe epilepsy.
Voices that only hear can hear and lights that he can only see in his head. The "witnesses" did or didn't see or hear these things depending on the version of Luke's account.
Anon 10:50 said... “Hey Questeruk (otherwise known as Anon 2:37)! Did you see how Wally so neatly evaded the issue?”
First of all, I am NOT Anon 2:37. I always use the pseudonym Questeruk. I never use any other, or post anonymously (unlike yourself). If its Questeruk, then it’s me, if it’s anything else, then it’s not me. OK?
I did post direct on Wally Smiths blog, (as Questeruk!!!) asking him
“Could you amplify a little just what this training consisted of?”, and he gave a reply:-
“Greetings, questeruk, and you bet.
For example, one of the things we wanted our children to be able to do (not just in church, but at other occasions, as well) was to stay on a blanket and not wander around without boundaries.
If we found that one of them (say, Boy #1) was having a difficult time doing this, one of us would go out to the hall with him, lay his blanket out there, sit on the floor next to him, and take advantage of the ability to gently “herd” him back when he wandered without being distracting to those around us. The consistent expectation that the blanket was where he was supposed to be eventually made its impression on him.
Every once in a while over the course of rearing four boys it was easy to wonder why we were even at services since we spent most of some days out in the hall sitting on the floor! Yet we also realized that this was only one chapter in our lives — and one worth reading, at that.
I hope this helps, and thanks for stopping by!”
Now I am prepared to take this at face value – I suspect you are not, but who can say which one of us is correct?
Incidently, He also expanded his ‘correction from the lecturn’ comment.
“I didn’t have to do much — I simply moved my head off to the side a bit from the microphone, called him by name, and told him to stop. When he heard me and saw me looking at him, he sat up, and that was the end of that.”
Not exactly child beating!
I believe that Wally Smith who is 39 has been brought up with the time out and taking away privilages rather than spanking is more apt not resort to spanking. I am fifty and a solid member of God,s church and I hardly ever spanked my children and certainly not after five years old.
"I am fifty and a solid member of God,s church and I hardly ever spanked my children and certainly not after five years old."
So in other words my fellow Anonymous, what you are telling us is that it is better to beat your kids earlier rather than later?
"Now I am prepared to take this at face value – I suspect you are not, but who can say which one of us is correct?"
Sorry Questeruk the earlier anon sounded like you, especially where you posted on Wally's blog.
We are not going to agree on this (taking Wally's statements at face value), but it isn't a matter of which one of us is "correct", it is a matter of determining the truth.
When I was in, all of those euphemisms (boundaries, discipline, training) clearly DID mean spanking and corporal punishment, to any sensible member of the church. It is just another example of the way they loaded the language, and I highly doubt they have discontinued the practice (either in word or in deed) with Rod "Spanky" Meredith still at the helm.
My last thought for the day, Questeruk: If you really wanted a straight answer out of Wally, you would have asked him point-blank if he spanked his kids.
Instead you gave him the easy way out, and enabled his evasion and avoidance of the hard questions, a typical reaction from CoG ministers.
Anon 10:50 again said...
“My last thought for the day, Questeruk: If you really wanted a straight answer out of Wally, you would have asked him point-blank if he spanked his kids.”
Anon, no reason you couldn’t do that yourself – his blog is as open to you as it is to me. As far as I remember, I have never posted there before, and I am not connected with LCG.
Incidentally, don’t take it that I am approving of spanking kids. In WCG my biggest confrontations with the ministry were because I was not bringing up my kids in the ‘approved way’ of the time.
But I do believe that things have changed – to a degree, anyway.
Dr. Bob Thiel is so pleased that Bishop Fulton Sheen thinks like he does on the second coming being in our time.
I wonder how he feels about Jesus, the disciples, all the Apostles, the entire church at that time and the Author of the Book of Revelation feeling it was also in their time?
Dork
Dr. Bob Thiel is so pleased that Bishop Fulton Sheen thinks like he does on the second coming being in our time.
Mr. Thiel is claiming Archbishop Sheen thought Christ was coming back in our time? Hmm, probably he did think it was possible Christ was coming back in our time -- but then all Christians ever since Pentecost have known the Second Advent is a possibility in any generation. Why a lapsed Catholic Armstrongist like Robert Thiel would care what Archbishop Sheen may have thought about this is a little baffling, though.
I wonder how he feels about Jesus, the disciples, all the Apostles, the entire church at that time and the Author of the Book of Revelation feeling it was also in their time?
He doesn't know what they "felt" about it, but then it seems you don't either. That said, you may find it interesting that according to Christian sacramental theology, the Second Advent, Resurrection, and Final Judgment are made really present every time the Church celebrates the Eucharist: that to which the Church is moving in Time is already here. As it says in the Liturgy of St. John Chrysostom (celebrated by Eastern Orthodox and Byzantine Catholics), "Remembering, therefore, this command of the Savior, and all that came to pass for our sake -- the cross, the tomb, the resurrection on the third day, the ascension into heaven, the enthronement at the right hand of the Father, and the second, glorious coming . . ."
Christ is coming in an hour we do not know, because that "day" and that "hour" are outside and above Time and Space: the Lord's Day, the "Eighth" Day, the "day" that the Lord has made, above and removed from the ordinary progression of Time as customarily counted in seven-day periods.
"Dr. Bob Thiel is one of the world’s foremost authorities on the events likely to occur in the months leading up to and after December 21, 2012."
Big deal -- there are about 6 billion such foremost authorities on earth at this time. Everyone on the planet knows just as much and just as little about what events are likely to occur in the months leading up to and after 21 Dec. 2012.
For example, one such event is that members of my family will take note of what would have been my parents' 50th wedding anniversary on 22 Dec. 2012.
Unless, of course, something extremely remarkable happens that results in the deaths and/or severe disability of every living member of my family. Emphatically I am NOT a prophet, brethren, nor am I the end-time Elijah, and I'm been at this "work" for more than two 19-year time cycles . . . .
"Why a lapsed Catholic Armstrongist like Robert Thiel would care what Archbishop Sheen may have thought about this is a little baffling, though."
Bob Thiel is not as "lapsed" as he would like his Church of God brethren and his Presiding Evangelist to believe he is. The fact that he quotes so extensively from the mouths of the liars for the Great Harlot demonstrate just how un"lapsed" he really is.
You cannot be in thrall to the church of Mystery Babylon, and a FirstFruit of the Lord at the same time. Bob Thiel's day of judgement is coming in which he will learn this swiftly.
"the Second Advent, Resurrection, and Final Judgment are made really present every time the Church celebrates the Eucharist: that to which the Church is moving in Time is already here"
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WHAT
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I thought Teddy Johnston didn't make much sense! That's not the standard Catholic take on it, Jared, even I know better than that!
The bread and wine is supposed to be changed through the hocus-pocus the priest mutters into "holy blood" and "holy flesh" that the baptized members drink and eat.
It has nothing to with Apocalypse, Armageddon, or a Kingdom that has not, is not, and never will be, returned.
Rolling your own version of the Roman religion are you?
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