The Painful Truth About The Worldwide Church of God

Email To The Editor
(Page 40)
(Mail from Kooks, Nuts and Loonies is on another page)

11/05/00

Hi Editor.

I have been a member of the WWCG for almost twenty-seven years.

I was very surprised when I discovered your Website two Sundays ago by accident.

I know all the pain and anger all these ex-members are feeling and will still feel for the rest of their lives.

I left WWCG officially about three months ago.

The reasons for me leaving are...

1) Same monkey pants.

2) They talk about changes....THAT IS A BIG JOKE. The only changes I saw was different people in authority.

3) The Church going local with HQ still as head. [ That does not make any sense to me].

4) The 'Praise and Worship Service'...I am still trying to understand that one, because the choir will sing very SAD songs, then they will speak about 'FELLING THE HOLY SPIRIT.'

5) Trying to control the youths (including my kids).

6) Gossip in high places.

7) A lack of true LOVE.

Ed., do you know what is Very STRANGE?

I first join the WWCG in the Caribbean region under the Big Master Cliffton Charles and his police spies...and there isn't one letter concerning him and his FEAR TACTICS he used to control and mess-up the lives of these people.

I will like to know if they are still fearful or afraid of him.

Why I ask this question, is because my life was a LIVING HELL in the WWCG.

Sorry to say....but some of those ministers weren't real.

I personally know the people who lives have been destroyed by the WWCG and the sad thing is I have family members who still wants to follow them.

Even though you CAN add my letter to your list.

My name is Charlotte.

Dear Editor,

I wanted to thank you for this web-sight. This is true freedom. Here, we all who have been abused by the wwcg can express our feelings and know that we are not alone. It is sad to see that there are still people or members Who will follow anything or anyone in the name of god. Thanks again and may the real god bless you and your staff.

Charlotte.

Ps. .I wrote you concerning the Caribbean. There are many horror stories in that area. I was there.....

After reading your article ''GET OVER IT'' ...saddens me greatly.

You wrote the truth... and it is very strange that there are some members and ex-members that will not agree.

The saddest part is, every Saturday morning very early, I will wake my kids and take them to church without eating. [During service my husband will leave to get something for the kids to eat at a nearby store]. I am very hurt now because I exposed my kids for eight years in that kind of environment. I only hope those years will not have any kind of negative effect on their lives...because my son is five presently and sleeps for very long hours.

I just want to say....keep on writing the truth.

A couple more members will really have their minds open after all.

Do you know that same attitude of...''YOU'LL GET OVER IT'' still exists in the church?

Very sad.

 I, as with all of my family, are former Worldwide Church of God members. By the time of the Worldwide Church of God disintegration and split in the late '80's, all members in my family except my parents had left the Worldwide Church of God. My parents, after the split, decided to follow the old HWA teachings and joined the United Church of Christ, one of the main splinter groups. To this day, they still attend.

I, as with 2 other of my 4 siblings are now born again Christians, brought to the true Christ in one way or another. I currently attend a Calvary Chapel here in Olympic, Washington and am having the greatest time of my life, living in Christ.

Like you, after my debacle with Worldwide Church of God, questioned myself, religion, other "Christians" etc. I found that after having been deceived for so long, the only person I wanted to trust was myself. The only person who could make things right or wrong, better or worse, good or bad in my life was me. Well, I couldn't have been more wrong.

I know that you stated on your web page that you do not take kindly to those who are "agenda pushers" or those people trying to convert others to their religions. Sir, I assure you I will treat you in the kindest manner in which I know how, and let you draw your own conclusions.

I lived in a singlewide mobile home that my Dad did the best to expand with his own hands. The added space proved to be little comfort for the 5 children in the family. It would be like 7 people living in a small double wide trailer by today's standards. We went to Worldwide Church of God every Saturday, missed school dances and sporting events, all in the name of God. I dreaded the weekends, I'd rather have been in school every day. But, alas, even under the tow of the Worldwide Church of God, my parents raised 5 wonderful children, all of which I believe will find their way to the real Christ.

We were all hurt by the Worldwide Church of God group in one way or another. My eldest sister is, like you, still very bitter. While some may see the Worldwide Church of God as the fault for many of my parents problems during our childhood, I do not. Many things in my family's past are blamed on the Worldwide Church of God, especially any "perceived" poverty. I see it as my Dad just being a tightwad. Granted, he could have used some of that money in better ways, but we did not go without food, clothes (maybe not the latest fashions), medical care, housing or most of all, love.

The bottom line is this; You have and had, free will. You made those choices. I never saw any Worldwide Church of God pastor with a pistol in his hand making people write checks.

I abhor the Worldwide Church of God as much as most, but obviously not as much as you. I look to help people who have been Worldwide Church of God members get through whatever it is they have to get through. I help to teach them what the Bible really has to say, and teach. I search the web to find groups that are trying to help people who were Worldwide Church of God members, and educate any of those people either in, or seeking to follow the Worldwide Church of God groups.

Then I found yours.

I read about half of the opening FAQ section, and quit. A few things became obvious to me at that time.

1. It is all about money for you. 2. All you want to do is sue the Worldwide Church of God, help people sue the Worldwide Church of God, and get "what's rightfully yours". (i.e. get even.) 3. You do not have the power to use your most precious gift; Forgiveness. 4. Until you can forgive and do forgive, you will continue to be the troubled and bitter man that is so obvious on your FAQ page. 5. You will never get to #4, until to find Christ, and trust in Him.

What you have to remember is that regardless of the reason that the past, present and future members of the Worldwide Church of God and it clones are deceived. Regardless of the figure-head, the deceptor is Satan. We must do our best through education to defeat this deception. That is how we win. Through love, not hate.

If you *choose* to let him, Christ can free you. The choice is yours.

I hope that this letter finds you and yours happy and healthy. I wish only the best for you in the future. I thank you for your help in educating those people that you have reached.

Sincerely,

Tom

REPLY:

 You, sir, are an idiot.

Stay away from my website. You do not deserve the truth. You have not suffered enough. Just stick with Jesus and he will bring plenty of pain into your life.

YOU WROTE: "Many things in my family's past are blamed on the Worldwide Church of God, especially any "perceived" poverty."

REPLY: Poverty is not a perceived thing. It is very real. I'm sure your father could have used the money that was blackmailed out of his pockets to make his life much easier.

YOU WROTE: "I never saw any Worldwide Church of God pastor with a pistol in his hand making people write checks."

REPLY: That has to be written by someone that was never there then. The whole control of the people was based upon our losing our eternal lives if we disobeyed. You don't think that is worse than a gun? I would have rather faced a gun than to have given up my perceived salvation by not tithing and giving generous offerings.

Your sister is right and her bitterness will protect her from fools such as yourself in the future.

Read the whole FAQ before you throw your judgments around. What does that goofy fairy tale book of yours say about those who judge a matter before they hear it?

I look to educate people by telling them the truth about the Worldwide Church of God, religion and the bible. You seek to keep them in slavery with your fairy tale book. Yes, we are very different and have different goals. I can prove my beliefs, you cannot.

The most precious gift is not forgiveness, it is intelligence. You refuse to use the one thing that, if there is a God, he gave you, your brain. Forgiveness is for fools such as yourself, who will remain enslaved to lies and myths, if not in one organization, then in another.

You say that the Worldwide Church of God members, past and present, are deceived. You are also deceived and you can't see it any clearer than they can. There is no Satan, another one of the Biblical fairy tales; mankind can be very evil all on their own.

I will do my best to educate people to see that religion is a crutch for weak-minded people. It wouldn't be so bad if you people could just have your irrational beliefs and leave others alone, but you can't. Your weak God needs your help to spread this message and convert people to your way of thinking but there is no evidence at all, if there is a God, that "It" gives a rat's ass about any of us.

Any further email from you will be blocked. I do not suffer fools.

Editor

In 1995, I assumed that the Worldwide Church of God doctrinal change meant that I could breathe a sigh of relief about the great tribulation. then I sent for my first P.C.G. literature (BARF!) . uh-oh, several years of assuming the 'armstrong-heads' were wrong and now.......I'd better get wise to this ploy of satan to distract us from the real truth.

I almost became a Philadelphia church of Armstrong member, but my natural cynical nature saved me. anything you can tell me about Gerald flurry and the pig ministers would be very welcome. Flurry is candid about his own dysfunctional upbringing, but has been silent on the inner rot of the worldwide church of Armstrong. I see a pattern: men like Flurry gravitate towards men who remind them of their dysfunctional dads; Flurry's dad was a alcoholic. so, please send any expose on the P.C.G. that you can.... I sense that they are bewildered as hell at the failure of herbie's prophecies and have resorted to 'big-lie' distortions to cover that up. hope to hear from you!

Victor

REPLY:

Victor,

Sorry, but all I can do is suggest that you do a search on the PT website to find the info you need. I don't have the time to keep up with all these moneymaking schemes.

I don't think Flurry is having as many problems with unfulfilled prophesies as you may think, after all it is the fault of the members "not being ready." When they are ready the prophesies will be fulfilled. Herb pulled it off for years.

Editor

 Dear Editor,

 I read your site as often as I can! I would have never understood some things if It wasn't for your site. It made me realize what I have to do in life!

I have No-one to really talk to about this -because none of my family or friends were involved with this! You cannot talk to someone unless they have gone through the same thing! I just wish I could talk to someone reasonable!

 Some of these X members are so critical and mean they don't want to cut the Armstrong puppet strings off there heads ---They need a pair of scissors and cut them off !!! But they refuse to!

I have for you also --PCG ( Gerald Flurry) -After the article about Mystery of Ages was denied ------His page is not active!! I wonder why? No more religion for me I had enough!

 Please keep anonymous for now!! I am just being cautious! ( will tell you later)

Thanks

 Hello

It has been awhile since I have visited this site, probably because it stirs up painful memories. I just read the suicide emails and I can only remember one specific time where a suicide in the church was ever discussed. That would be in the 1968-69 time frame. I was a student at AC Pasadena, and during services one Sabbath the minister mentioned a suicide in the Oakland church. It was a man, who was described as a "fringer" and influenced by satan. That is all I can recall, but I remember being shocked by it.

I read the email of 12/11/99 by Jombie, who mentioned counseling with David Albert for baptism. I also have counseled with David Albert for baptism on several occasions, never successfully. I never could meet the requirements.

You had to know David Albert. He was my speech teacher and my Ambassador Club Adviser. And my counselor. I remember being in Ambassador Club one evening when Albert was just beaming. He was relating how he had been in the presence of HWA, and Herbert had called him by his first name, "Dave". "He knew my name!", Albert exclaimed, grinning from ear to ear. He basically worshipped HWA.

One of the purposes of Ambassador Club (at least the one run by David Albert), was to instill the image of masculinity and all that implies into the members. The more macho you could be the better you were. We strove to present ourselves boldly and forcefully, at least in the club.

So, what I have to relate here is not really a suicide, but the death of an Ambassador College student. His name was Lawrence Wayne Foreman, from Tahlequah, Oklahoma. He was 17 years old when he entered AC Pasadena. I don't know this from memory, but I just looked at his picture in the Student Body book with the photos of all the students for the year 1968-69. Lawrence was a ladies' man. He was one of those guys that just had a way with the girls, and I secretly envied him for that. I had the pleasure of being in the same Dorm, in the same room with him, so I got to know him fairly well.

I think it was just after graduation in 1969 when I heard the news that Lawrence had been killed. We were stunned. Garner Ted Armstrong made the formal announcement in the gymnasium, and I remember many girls crying. Lawrence had been hiking with a college group led by David Albert. Somebody told me that he had slipped and fallen off a precipice and broken his neck. It made the Los Angeles Times, which reported that the accident had occurred in Devils Canyon, a remote and rugged area.

Yep, David Albert sure knew how to teach people to be macho. Wasn't good enough to go on an ordinary hike, why it had to be dangerous as well. The son of a bitch.

I still remember you Lawrence.

Bob

 Editor,

 I was not a pastor during the times when so many of the things that you have listed were done. You mention giving up the money, giving up the power, getting out of the God-pimping business. I was asked to work as a non salaried pastor. I was asked to do so three times and finally agreed to try to help out if I could. I am not into power. I have been told by some members and even ex-members that I needed to tell some other member to do something or other and I responded that it was not my job to tell the members how to live their lives. I was asked by a member for advice about some aspect of re-decorating their house and I told them I was in not qualified to address that topic. I am not selling God. I have said in numerous sermons that if a member is not growing spiritually in the Worldwide Church of God, there is nothing wrong with finding another church to attend, so I am not trying to keep people in the Worldwide Church of God for my gain or the national groups gain.

 The things that you list are not things I have done that I know of. For those I know I have done and for those I don't know I have done, I apologize to any I have hurt and ask you to forgive me.

 While I don't think I have done any of the things on your list (except maybe give boring sermons), I have lived through most if not all of them while growing up in the Worldwide Church of God since 1962. I wouldn't put my worst enemy through many of the things I lived through, let alone brothers and sisters in Christ.

 The other co-pastor and I are not ordained and have not desire to be ordained. Neither of us receive a salary from the church. We both work other jobs full-time. We teach our church that we are all ministers and none is higher or better than the other. We have both assured the members here that the only thing we can promise is that we will make mistakes. Neither of us pretend to be more righteous than anyone else in the church and have even expressed the struggle we have with being asked to serve as pastors when we know we are just sinners. I have encouraged everyone to point it out to me if I explain a scripture and we have allowed many questions by members during our sermons.

 In regard to the treatment of women and blacks, an area that touches my heart because of my past. We have had women and blacks and black women be the worship leader, give prayers and even sermonettes/sermons/messages (whatever anyone wants to call them now).

 If you have any specific questions, I will be glad to answer them. I do regret the damage done to the members by so many ministers who were abusive. I pray that I am never that way.

 I don't recall meeting you, but if I have ever offended you personally, I am sorry. Please forgive me.

Larry Pritchett

 REPLY:

Larry,

I gather this is in response to the request for "ministers" to sign the "apology" page. I will add your name. I perceive that you are repentant even though you say you have nothing to be repentant for. Even so, I give you credit for your heartfelt apology. I think that it must help a lot to not have to depend on "headquarters" for your income. I knew so many ministers who I can no longer respect at all because I see that they are corrupted by the love of money.

Do you ever think that it is immoral for you to continue to support a group that has a foundation of so much evil? Do you really think that your Jesus would do the same? I know that you can rationalize it by saying that you are just trying to help the people not the leadership but it is still the same thing. Do you think that Jesus was wrong when he said that a tree with bad roots cannot bear good fruit? Can any sane person deny that the roots were bad?

Do you think that the present day Worldwide Church of God owes more than an apology for all the damaged lives over the years? Do you think that the present-day, full time or retired "ministers" should be using the "old money" that paid for the Big Sandy and Pasadena properties, for their own present prosperity and retirement or should it be turned over to an independent entity to distribute to the people who had their lives irrevocably changed for the worse by this cult? Do you think these men deserve a retirement while the people that they blackmailed the money from have no retirement? Tell me: What would Jesus do?

 Would you like to respond to the ?

Have you taught your members the very painful truth about HWA, Garner Ted Armstrong, JWT and their gang of thieves? Don't you think that these members should all have the same knowledge about what happened to them that you do and all the ministers at headquarters do? Don't you think that these members ought to have the whole truth presented to them so that they can make an informed decision on whether to stay or to leave the Worldwide Church of God?

Please respond to Question #36 of the FAQ: You are accused of being "unchristian" because you refuse to act and respond like Jesus would. Defend yourself and the Worldwide Church of God; nobody else has.

Please comment on the article where the members of the present .

Well, I could go on but I don't want to embarrass you too much; I can't imagine you having any rational answer to these questions. I do appreciate your signing the "Apology Page." I hope that some day you will realize that even what you are continuing to do today, unpaid, is wrong also. Here is hoping that you don't screw up somebody's life, irrevocably, just like your predecessors. Think about it.

Editor

REPLY:

Just a word or two in response.

 I perceive that you are repentant even though you say you have nothing to be repentant for.

If I said I have nothing to repent for, I misspoke. I have much to repent for, but not in regard to some of the things that pastors did in the past.

 Do you ever think that it is immoral for you to continue to support a group that has a foundation of so much evil? Do you really think that your Jesus would do the same? I know that you can rationalize it by saying that you are just trying to help the people not the leadership but it is still the same thing. Do you think that Jesus was wrong when he said that a tree with bad roots cannot bear good fruit? Can any sane person deny that the roots were bad?

I grew up in the Worldwide Church of God. I don't remain in the Worldwide Church of God because of that. I remain in the Worldwide Church of God in spite of that. In regard to all of the "evil" that was done, I have no personal knowledge of many things that have been asserted about the past leadership so it would be wrong for me to judge them based on accusations (that does not mean that some of these things may not have happened.) The things about which I have knowledge are the things that happened to myself or my family. Ironically, most of those responsible have left are now working in some of the different splinter groups.

 Do you think that the present day Worldwide Church of God owes more than an apology for all the damaged lives over the years? Do you think that the present-day, full time or retired "ministers" should be using the "old money" that paid for the Big Sandy and Pasadena properties, for their own present prosperity and retirement or should it be turned over to an independent entity to distribute to the people who had their lives irrevocably changed for the worse by this cult? Do you think these men deserve a retirement while the people that they blackmailed the money from have no retirement? Tell me: What would Jesus do?

Honestly, I'm not sure on this one. If an independent entity was set up to distribute the proceeds from the sale, millions of people would suddenly decide that they had once donated and the distribution could never be done in a way that is equitable. If is doesn't go into a pension fund for former employees and ministers, there won't be retirement support for these people later on. As long as it is set up so that eligibility is based on time worked for the Worldwide Church of God and not what group you are in now, I don't see how that would be bad.

I have to go to work now. I will write more later.

Larry Pritchett

 REPLY:

 Larry,

Just to clarify:

YOU WROTE: "I have no personal knowledge of many things that have been asserted about the past leadership so it would be wrong for me to judge them based on accusations..."

REPLY: It would be good if you would apply this criteria to your belief in the Bible. There is a lot more proof that these assertions are true than there are that the Bible is true or that Jesus even lived.

And, just so you can see that these are all separate questions that beg an answer, I will number them: Yes or No will suffice except for Question number nine.

1. Do you ever think that it is immoral for you to continue to support a group that has a foundation of so much evil?

2. Do you really think that your Jesus would do the same? I know that you can rationalize it by saying that you are just trying to help the people not the leadership but it is still the same thing; you are perpetuating the organization.

3. Do you think that Jesus was wrong when he said that a tree with bad roots cannot bear good fruit?

4. Can any sane person deny that the roots were bad?

5. Do you think that the present day Worldwide Church of God owes more than an apology for all the damaged lives over the years?

6. Do you think that the present-day, full time or retired "ministers" should be using the "old money" that paid for the Big Sandy and Pasadena properties, for their own present prosperity and retirement?

7. Should it be turned over to an independent entity to distribute to the people who had their lives irrevocably changed for the worse by this cult?

8. Do you think these men deserve a retirement while the people that they blackmailed the money from have no retirement?

9. Tell me: What would Jesus do?

Editor

 It has been 6 years since I left the Worldwide Church of God. I now put on creation seminars. I thought you might like a picture of Noah's Ark. It is amazing how much you can learn and grow, after you leave a cult. Glad the past is behind. I cannot believe the people still trapped.

Lowell

 REPLY:

 Sorry Lowell, you are still in a cult and still TRAPPED. You can't see it any better than the Worldwide Church of God people.

Good luck.

Editor

 REPLY:

Just curious why you still say I am in a cult as opposed to a balanced moral group that does not rape their members for money, etc. the way Worldwide Church of God did. Do you consider any fellowship group a cult?

Lowell

 REPLY:

You are in the Christ cult. You can't even prove this person ever existed yet you worship him.

You still believe the bible yet you cannot prove that it is inspired by any God worth worshipping.

That is cultic thinking. Doesn't matter that it is one of the predominate cults right now, it is still cultic. Not interested in a dialog on this matter. I cannot debate against "faith", which is blind belief in something not provable.

Editor

REPLY:

 Thank you for your response though, and thank you for running the Painful Truth. It helped many people.

At least I was able to show you the petrified remains of Noah's Ark. That is physically provable.

Lowell

 REPLY:

It is people like you, who blindly accept, without proof, these fables, that perpetuates the religious paralysis that grips so many people, fearful of death.

The Painful Truth website will continue to help people if they will only open their minds to the facts and things that are provable and leave the fables and mind control of the god pimps behind.

Editor

 REPLY:

 They are thought, (trying to disprove it is Noah's Ark) because an SDA has done the major part of the work on the site since 1977. The Turkish government built a visitor center there 3 years ago and put on 24 hour security on the site. The boat shape outline you see is all pertified wood which tests out at 5% organic carbon. Ground radar shows major braces running from side to side and compartments. Fossilized iron rivets have been found. A cross section of the petrified decking that the Turkish government allowed Ron to bring back to the states shows 3 distinct layers (Gopher wood = lamenated wood) of pertified wood with tree resin (Pitch) in between them. There was to be a major conference there last week, but the Turkish Govenment postponed it until spring. You will hear far more about this site in the near future. I will read your Bibliolatry page though. You will have to admit that many other groups do not wish this to be the Ark because then they cannot bleed people for more money to go find it. Get my point. There are a lot of "Christian" groups that don't want this to be it. They loose their funding. Ron spent all his own personal money to do all the research on this site. He owns nothing to anyone, and in fact, he died of cancer last year so he cannot even profit from all his work. Just thought you would like to know. One intersting thing thought. The Turkish government allowed Ron to do some bore holes at the base and he incountered what was used for ballist for the ship. Slag from making iron. The trace elements in that slag also say that a good quality of steel was being made at the time, not just iron. The real kicker is that they also found aluminum slag. You have to have electricity like we have it today to refine aluminum. At the Wyatt Museum in Tennessee, they also have a piece of pertrified wood from the site with platinum nails in it. In size, they are like a finish nail today.

Have a good day. Thank you for responding, I do appreciate the dialogue. Again also, thank you for all the information you got out in the Painful Truth. You did help many people and changed a lot of lives.

Lowell  

I came to "The Painful Truth" looking for similarities to my own experience. I found plenty.

I am not, nor have ever been a member of WWCG, but rather from a small sub-set of mainstream Christianity. But I found my own story being told here.

I am writing in response to "The Heavy Coat of Lies." The author stated that she was intending to start a group dedicated to publishing these stories. Would it be possible for you to put me in contact with her?

Thank you.

And -great site! Very helpful -even to outsiders like me.

Oh; name and address: I understand you will not publish this.
Sue

I have a son-in-law by the name of Jeff that was raised in the Worldwide Church of God and still has very strong beliefs of this cult (as far as I am concerned). He married our daughter 2 years ago and she attends the Assembly of God. He has asked her for a divorce because she refuses to go with him to his home meetings and he is also attending a church called the United Church of God of which I understand is a breakoff of the United Church of God. She went with him for about a year and she could not stand the coldness and the feeling of not belonging. There seems to be no reasoning with him. I have pulled some things off your website and printed them so that perhaps he might read the information and get his eyes opened. We are Assembly of God and have always believed that Jesus Christ died for our sins and redeemed us from the laws because God knew it was impossible to strickly follow the law and it is very difficult to explain this to Jeff and he believes he is right. This is so sad to be so brainwashed. My daughter does not want to divorce him as she loves him but she will not give into a cult.

We are praying that Christ will open his eyes and ears to truth as this is our only hope. Perhaps you might have some suggestions.

Sincerely, Linda

 REPLY:

 Linda,

My only suggestion would be that you examine your own beliefs. In my opinion, you are in as much of a cult as your son-in-law.

That isn't easy to accept is it?

I think Jeff has the same problem with you wanting to change his religion as you will have accepting this advice.

Editor

 Dear Sir,

 I greet you in the wonderful name of Christ Jesus our Messiah.

My name is Thomas James Hardy, I have been the Senior Pastor of several Churches over many years. In 1996 God called me to a greater ministry within the shores of Australia and beyond. This ministry is to expound the Truth of His Word as it is written and not as man see's it, in the Prophetic and Evangelistic Itinerant manner. I have always, insisted that the Word is preached as written, even as a Pastor for the Apostolic Church of Australia.

However my resignation from Pastorship to follow my greater calling, was not received as an appointment from their movement, so it has been difficult to carry out this ministry in an uncredentialed manner.

I have been praying for a long time now and believe that God is leading me to become a ministry member with the Worldwide Church of God. I therefore seek further information and the requirements for registration of an application for ministry.

I am currently ministering by invitation and walking strictly by faith, my wife also travels and ministers with me. My experience and credentials extend from that of Anglican Ministry into the Pentecostal Ministry to a Ph.D of Theology with The International Institute of Graduate Studies. I am 61 years of age with a life time of experience in His calling. I have no desire to retire or to leave His service.

I would like to thankyou in advance for any kindness youo might show me, because of this letter.

May our Heavenly Father continue to bless your good works and bind it solidly to the Truth of His Holy Word.

Your Servant in Christ Always,

Thomas J.Hardy.

Prophet/ Evangelist.

  REPLY:

 Thomas,

Here is my advice: Get out of the religion business. Go get yourself an honest job instead. Any God that needs you to do his "work" for him, isn't worth worshipping.

I can see why you would not want to retire since being a minister involves very little work for a nice paycheck. I think that you should consider some other branch of the Jesus Cult, though, since this branch has plenty of "ministers" who want a piece of the pie and the pie is shrinking.

Editor

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