The Painful Truth About The Worldwide Church of God

Email To The Editor
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(Mail from Kooks, Nuts and Loonies is on another page)


2/24/02

My name is marcel, I'm 17.
I am (as many young guys are) search for the truth about religion.
I like to use the reason and dialog to figure things out. So I would like to know tour opinion about some stuff.
I read some of your ideas but it didn't convince me yet...
You said that christianism is a fake because they say that god is good and care about us and one of your main points is that god allowed your wife to die. First of all, christians reconize that god can allow bad things that we can learn and grow with the pain. And seams that you are looking for someone to blame for her death, and this would be god.
Second, you say that religion is bad based on the happenings of sept 11th and wars in Israel etc... Well, none of those religions are the true christianism.
You say that you believe that there is a god responsible for an inteligent criation of life. Wouldn't this god be the one in the bible?
And why do you think that the bible is a fake if there are so many archeological finds like 300ad scrolls of perfect copies of nowadays bible and bodies, horses and atient egiptian weels in the death sea (like told in the bible).
Well, I hope you have time to answer my questions.

c-ya!
 

REPLY:

Marcel,

YOU WROTE:
but it didn't convince me yet

REPLY:
I'm not trying to convince you. The information is there. If you read it and get any benefit out of it, good. I do not benefit if you are convinced, you will benefit. You will have a much better life if you can free yourself from the evil clutches of religion.

YOU WROTE:
one of your main points is that god allowed your wife to die

REPLY:
Where did you get that? I seriously do not think you have read what I have written. If you are saying that is my main point, why should I read any more of what you have to say? Why would I ever say that? Everyone dies. Everyone. God allows everyone to die. I don't hold that against God. Its just the way things are. No problemo.

YOU WROTE:
god can allow bad things that we can learn and grow with the pain

REPLY:
That is just a copout. God refuses to intervene in our lives so we have to make up a story to excuse "Our Father" for his lack of fatherly love. We can't accept the fact that god does not care about us so we dream up excuses for him. Hey! I am just accepting the obvious. You talk about "learning and growing," what a bunch of bullshit. Tell me what some little baby is learning by being raped and killed by some pervert? How is the pain beneficial to the child? How is it "growing" when it is dead? How are people ,trapped 30 feet under a mudslide and slowly dying of suffocation, learning and growing? Is the insane terror good for them as they call out on their cell phone and beg for help that cannot come? If they learn anything before they finally die, it is that god will not be rescuing them. They can pray themselves blue in the face and the only hope they will ever have is for human intervention. Read my Acts of God page and see just a little bit of what you have to defend your uncaring god for. I don't have to do that. I accept the fact that we are on our own. I am free from fables, dreams and fairy tales. You are not.

YOU WROTE:
Second, you say that religion is bad based on the happenings of sept 11th and wars in Israel etc

REPLY:
Where did I say that? I believed that religion was bad long before Sept. 11th. I am very specific in what I say; why do you find it necessary to generalize and put your own interpretation and spin on what I say? Sept. 11th is just an example of what happens when people take their religion seriously.  Christianity is no better than these other religions. It is worse than many because you people can't be satisfied with just believing what you want; you have this driving need to force your beliefs on other people. In fact, the instructions for doing this are in your evil magical book, the Bible. Religion is bad based on its fruits. The god of the bible kills unbelievers and IT has IT's followers kill for IT. Get yourself some books on the Inquisition, the Salem Witch trials and the Crusades and see what Christians have done for their god.

There is absolutely nothing good about religion other than its use as a drug to help people deal with the fact that they will all die.

YOU WROTE:
You say that you believe that there is a god responsible for an inteligent criation of life. Wouldn't this god be the one in the bible?

REPLY:
Well, why would it? Do you have any proof at all that the bible was written or inspired by any being other than a human? Please enlighten me since I only studied it "religiously" for 8 more years than you have even lived; 25 wasted years of my adult life in all. What have I missed that you, in all your wisdom, have discovered?

YOU WROTE:
And why do you think that the bible is a fake if there are  so many archeological finds like 300ad scrolls of perfect copies of nowadays bible and bodies, horses and atient egiptian weels in the death sea (like told in the bible).

REPLY:
And, why do you think the Bible is more than just any other book? Do you believe other books are "holy" just because they may have something in them that can be verified historically? What does that prove? I haven't said it is a "fake." I truly believe it is a BOOK. But just a book and no more than a book. The problem comes when you people, who have absolutely no proof at all that this book was "god inspired," will deify the book. You have to face this: you worship a book not a god. Its an old book. It has been worshipped by ignorant and mostly uneducated people for many ages. There are some good things in it. There are many bad things in it. There are some true things in it and some false things in it. What makes it holy? I'll tell you what: it is people like you who refuse to objectively examine what is in that book and use your brain to figure out whether a god that was worth worshipping stands behind it. The fictional god of the bible is an evil god. We should all be glad that it is a fiction.

Read the articles and links that I have on my Bibliolatry page.

Read The Age of Reason, its a good place to start.

See what other people have discovered about this book that you put your faith in. (Faith, meaning you believe something with absolutely no proof at all. If you had proof, you wouldn't need faith.) Get enough facts to make a balanced decision on what you believe and then don't lock your self into that belief. Be open to different opinions and facts. Be willing to change your mind when presented with new facts but don't believe anything just because somebody says it is true. Demand proof. Don't you think that god would want you to search after "him" with your brain?

Editor


 Hi Editor:
Here in Ohio they're at it again. I wonder when these creationists will ever stop foisting their warped religious beliefs onto our public schools? When will they ever learn that religion needs to stay the hell away from our government and its institutions? Like the ugly, scraggly, flea bitten stray cat, it keeps constantly returning, yowling at the back door, and the government constantly keeps shooing it away. Now it's back again, meowing and scratching for entry.


They place their flimsy reasoning in the need for students to have an alternate study of religion along with science to round out their education. These creationists come demanding participation, with the lousiest reputation and presenting horrible credentials that contain the most outrageous crimes committed against all of humanity since time began. All in the name of religion and approval of their god or gods. Recent events have made it more apparent than ever before why it is vitally important to uphold the United States Constitution and forever keep the separation of church and state.


Those of us who finally emerged from the stinking morass of moronic religious teachings of the Mad-Mad Wildworld of God can fully understand the mind-set of the present day cultists. We were just as fanatic as they are. Our minds were molded by our own bin Laden. Only ours was a pervert who dubbed himself "God's Apostle" and we were totally and positively convinced that he was. The screwball spin-offs still do. We were so dedicated to this "Word of God" that we would sacrifice our very lives for it. And many did. By being forbidden to seek medical help for curable diseases. Some by the aftermath, by becoming disillusioned and committing suicide. We were commanded to forsake our loved ones, our families, our friends, our money, our constitutional rights and to disassociate ourselves from the "unconverted," keeping our eyes focused on "The World Tomorrow" and "The Coming Kingdom of God."


I realize there are many other similar letters and articles on the Painful Truth as related above, but I repeat it to make a point: Afghanistan was a nation dictated by a religious government called the Taliban. The people were ruled harshly by Taliban religious rules, tenets, laws and customs. Women were treated like lepers. All were forced to praise and pray to the Taliban god. So when the leaders became bold and sent their deluded martyrs to bring down the WTC, they brought on the ruination of Afghanistan plus the misery and death of much of its population. This is proof positive that NO religion of any kind should be allowed in our schools or government systems. The influx of oppressed immigrants with different faiths only compounds the problem. We in Worldwide were taught to shun "Satan's world" and to treat it's traditions and mores with utter disdain. Many nations hate our country, in spite of the fact we feed them with their bite marks on our hands. Iranians call America "The Great Satan." They and Herbie's cults have something in common. The chilling comparison makes one's skin crawl.


The editorial page of Jan.22nd issue of the Columbus Dispatch had this subject as its main topic from which I would like to quote several excerpts:
Science and religion Creationism doesn't belong in biology class "The schools face too many challenges and graduates too many students who are unprepared to succeed in a technologically complex world for Ohio to have the luxury of arguing about whether religious beliefs should be taught in "science." The main reason the debate should end is that science and religion are entirely separate. They do not belong in the same debate or classroom, for that matter. Science is a method for learning about the world by gathering facts and making conclusions based on those facts--conclusions that can be tested and if they don't hold up, can be discarded. Religion, on the other hand, concerns itself with matters of faith and human spirit, and posits the existence of supernatural powers beyond the scope of scientific inquiry. Another difficulty involved with teaching the biblical view of creation to science classes -aside from the concern of violation of the establishment clause of the Constitution -is that other religions would be understandably offended if their beliefs about creation were not taught while the Christian view was. Virtually all religions advance a belief about creation and although the stories have commonalities, they have many differences as well.


If the Christian view of creation is taught, schools would not be teaching "objectively" --as creationists desire--if they left out the Buddhist view of creation, or the Taoist view, or the views of numerous American Indian and African religions. Science should be taught in school. Religion should be left in the home and the Church." '.

Here's what Jeffrey K. McKee, associate professor of the Dept. of Anthropology at OSU had to say:
--"While seeking to undermine high-quality science education, ID (Intelligent Design) proponents and other creationists trivialize the United States Constitution and often hijack the Bible, thereby doing a disservice to their own religions as well as to education. ID should stand for insidious deception as it is a disguise for creationism, meant to sneak particular religious views into our science classrooms. Hopefully, Ohioans are too savvy to allow such political chicanery to damage sound educational standards for our school children."

And finally this from Theodore Dreiser's THE CHURCH AND WEALTH IN AMERICA published in 1931. Chapter 14 of Tragic America:
--"I decry the power of the Church and its use of that power, in America in particular! Throughout the world, as all know, the churches are so organized as to have the wealth, size and formation of a great corporation, a government, or an army. And in America, the wealthy individuals who rule in corporate affairs appear to be attracted to the church by reason of its hold not only on the mind but the actions of its adherents. Politically, socially and otherwise, they count on its power and influence as of use to them. And not without reason, since especially among the ignorant and poor, its revealed wisdom counsels resignation and orders faith in a totally inscrutable hereafter. In short, it makes for ignorance and submission in the working class. And what more could a corporation-minded government or financial group, looking toward complete control of everything for a few, desire?"

I apologize for such a long letter, but I felt it was something that had to be said. I hate to see the possibility of our youths' minds being brainwashed like ours was.
Alex


I was a member of the cult for all of my childhood and some of my adult life. It's amazing how I never found it particularly strange that, as a child, my family as well as the rest of the sheep-like congregation, would attend a "holy day" service, dressed in unmercifully outdated clothes to give what little money we had, to finance the "work" of an uneducated man in an Italian suit!

Charlie, victim of Armstrongism '74-'92


Proving the historic Jesus http://www.sonic.net/sentinel/naij3.html

Kristin

REPLY:

I'll see your one website and raise you seven.

There are many more but I know that you will not even look at these. Don't want to bother you with the truth, you've already made up your mind. I realize that you cannot look into this or you will lose your salvation and possibly your sanity.
Editor.

Christianity Unadorned Manipulating the Good News
http://www.askwhy.co.uk/awcnotes/cn4/0330MissingRecords.html#cens

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Did Jesus Christ Really Live?

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The Truth About Jesus Is He A Myth?

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Jesus, Fact or Fiction

http ://www.atheist-community.org/jesus_fact_or_fiction.htm
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Who Was Jesus Christ?
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The World's Sixteen Crucified Saviors
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THE JESUS PUZZLE
Pieces in a Puzzle of Christian Origins
http://www.magi.com/~oblio/jesus/jhcjp.htm
 
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The Origins of Christianity and
the Quest for the Historical Jesus Christ
http://www.truthbeknown.com/origins.htm

Conclusion

As Walker said, "Scholars' efforts to eliminate paganism from the Gospels in order to find a historical Jesus have proved as hopeless as searching for a core in an onion." The "gospel" story of Jesus is not a factual portrayal of a historical "master" who walked the earth 2,000 years ago. It is a myth built upon other myths and godmen, who in turn were personifications of the ubiquitous sungod mythos.

"The Christ of the gospels is in no sense an historical personage or a supreme model of humanity, a hero who strove, and suffered, and failed to save the world by his death. It is impossible to establish the existence of an historical character even as an impostor. For such an one the two witnesses, astronomical mythology and gnosticism, completely prove an alibi. The Christ is a popular lay-figure that never lived, and a lay-figure of Pagan origin; a lay-figure that was once the Ram and afterwards the Fish; a lay-figure that in human form was the portrait and image of a dozen different gods."

REPLY:

You are not too busy to badmouth God or defame Him and the Bible.

You are too busy to hear the truth however.

To cut through all the garbage, why not get honest with God IF YOU EVER FIND THE TIME TO...ask Him to show you beyond a shadow of a doubt that He is real.

He only wants the best for you.

Love,

Kristin

REPLY:

YOU WROTE:
Him to show you beyond a shadow of a doubt that He is real.
REPLY:
You ask. I've been asking for 58 years.
 
YOU WROTE:
You are not too busy to badmouth God
REPLY:
I badmouth nothing because that is what I see: No god that cares about mankind.
 
YOU WROTE:
defame Him and the Bible
REPLY:
The bible defames itself. It is full of evil acts of an evil god not worthy of worship. It is only a book. I will not give it more credibility than it earns for itself. It is full of errors and contradictions.
 
Not a very good way for a "god: to communicate with intelligent people. Now, for people that are not intelligent, it may be sufficient.
 
YOU WROTE:
He only wants the best for you.
 
REPLY:
What a laugh.
Can you prove that? Show me that god wanted the best for the millions of people on my Acts of God page.
 
Until you can do that, you are living in a religious-drug-induced dream world.

Editor


Dear Editor,

If you are having problems with the PT Website, you know, the damn thing just will not cooperate--can't post anything, can't access anything, you are trying to restructure something, and it won't work--whom do you blame God or Satan? Which of the two is against you the most, do you suppose? Hmmm...

I really enjoyed the posting "Judge orders God to break up into smaller deities." I teach in a small sub--dept. at Central Texas College in Killeen, TX. I took the article and shared it with the rest of the staff during our "working lunch." I held the article up and said in by best pulpit voice, "when this comes to fruition we will have a 'flat tire' god, a 'start the car' god, and a--" I was cut off by the Agnostic Vietnam Vet staff member who quipped, "that's how people pray right now." Another instructor, who is Catholic, wryly stated, "I thought that's what saints are for..." She went on to tell how you can bury a statue of St. Thomas head down in your yard and get something or another out of it... The German instructor said, "I'm Lutheran, I don't know anything about any of this." She did go on to say how she thought our program chair looks like Buddha. I feel very "blessed" to work with such an irreverent staff. There are many places I could have taken that article and I would have been brought up on charges.

I guess the point of all this is that what you, my colleagues, an I make fun of, people actually believe...

Later, Bryan

REPLY:

Bryan,

YOU WROTE:
If you are having problems with the PT Website, ........whom do you blame God or Satan?

REPLY:
The website provider. Or, my own stupidity for picking a provider who is not providing for me. Kinda like picking a god that never helps you, only "tests" you.

YOU WROTE:
what you, my colleagues, an I make fun of, people actually believe...

REPLY:
Yeah. Its scary, isn't it? Good to hear you have  a lot of sympathetic people you can associate with.

Editor


I left the church sometime around the new Tkatch trinity truth. I am a former Ambassador College graduate and a 2nd generation Church member. Being alcholic and going through a devorce I went to Alcoholics Anonomus. There simple aproach to God opened a whole new avenue. I finally understood grace and how Jesus said He lost none of his disciple except Judas who was chosen for that purpose. Jesus saved them, they had very little to do with it. I finally got a real connection with Christ. Lately I've been looking at churches to attend. I support a radio station called bbn which I think does a great job however I feel a church would be great. After looking into it I still feel the global or better still the United church of God is still the closest to what I beleive. For all Armstrong's faults I watch as Europe rises up. I still believe we are Israel. God says in Michah, I think, that we were cheif of all nations. I had to go back and read everything again, Not relying on a man but on God. I'm still not there yet because I have attended a church in Ocala and did not feel edified (too much talk about supporting and not seeing any worldwide work..) Anyway it just took me getting on my knees again and saying God I'm not smart enough to figure all this out. I also don't know if I have it in me to do any long time repentance thing. Please help me understand. I then understood grace and the new covenant like never before as I read Paul's writing's and the gospel's. I just know Satan is fighting as never before to cloud everything and we have to rely on Christ to see us through.

God bless. P.s. You can post anything I write....

REPLY:

James,
I gather that you have read my FAQ page, right? You must see that we do not agree on anything regarding religion. Why are you writing to me?

Editor

REPLY:

I read your FAQ page after I e'mailed you however I feel connencted because after I left I basically let drugs, women , and alcohol run my life. I became what I thought was an atheist yet as a friend pointed out why was I so angry if there wasn't a God...I realized I beleived in a God all along, I just was very angry that I had always tried to do the right thing and yet had to suffer so much pain. It reminds me of John the Baptist who thought Christ was trying to set up the Kingdom of God then and as he sat in prison he asked Christ if He really was who He said He was. Christ said blessed is he who is not offended in Me. I'm still not sure of a lot of things yet it feels good to belive in God and not worry about how someone else tells you what to belive. I was so angry when the church annulled my marriage of two years. The nerve of them. However today I'm married to a women that has real character and I'm no longer a man who lets a women dictate his life. After getting over the anger God has blessed me abundantly even though I have not attended church more then a few times since I left. I don't know I guess I feel your pain. I would have rather had my arms ripped off than go through what I did at the end. Yet today I live on a nice farm and am totally happy. I am no longer a Christian who looks down on others and thanks God that I am chosen above everyone else....the elite... I now realize God loves all of us. He just dosen't raise up spoiled children. I still wish He would work on are terms however it keeps me humble and searching. You have helped me heal a little more by visiting your sight. Thanks...I will still visit to see news about old friends and...those that threated to disfellowship me. By the way I would like to read your story. Is it on the sight?.. God bless.

 

 I left the church sometime around the new Tkatch trinity truth. I am a former Ambassador College graduate and a 2nd generation Church member. Being alcholic and going through a devorce I went to Alcoholics Anonomus. There simple aproach to God opened a whole new avenue. I finally understood grace and how Jesus said He lost none of his disciple except Judas who was chosen for that purpose. Jesus saved them, they had very little to do with it. I finally got a real connection with Christ. Lately I've been looking at churches to attend. I support a radio station called bbn which I think does a great job however I feel a church would be great. After looking into it I still feel the global or better still the United church of God is still the closest to what I beleive. For all Armstrong's faults I watch as Europe rises up. I still believe we are Israel. God says in Michah, I think, that we were cheif of all nations. I had to go back and read everything again, Not relying on a man but on God. I'm still not there yet because I have attended a church in Ocala and did not feel edified (too much talk about supporting and not seeing any worldwide work..) Anyway it just took me getting on my knees again and saying God I'm not smart enough to figure all this out. I also don't know if I have it in me to do any long time repentance thing. Please help me understand. I then understood grace and the new covenant like never before as I read Paul's writing's and the gospel's. I just know Satan is fighting as never before to cloud everything and we have to rely on Christ to see us through. God bless. P.s. You can post anything I write....
 


Editor:
Following are two portions of Joe Tkach's latest member letter (I still get them...). The items in parentheses are my observations.
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Dear Brothers and Sisters in Christ,

A magazine (What magazine?) recently reported that an increasing number of people find meaning and purpose in the mantra, "I shop, therefore I am." You may recognize this humorous innovation as a modification of a well known phrase from philosophy, "I think, therefore I am." (Yes, Joe, but are you willing to to let people live by 'Cogito Ergo Sum'?)

But our consumer culture doesn't need more shopping. What our culture needs is the truth of the gospel (so, pray tell, who is going to finance society's need for the gospel? Not Joe Jr.), which includes God's self-revelation, "I am who I am; therefore you are." (Yes, a Creator would obviously be whatever a Creator would be. Yet there is ample evidence that "we are" because of life processes that have been set in motion and left untouched since "creation." There was no collection plate passed before "The Big Bang" if you will, Joe.)

The rich young man in Mark 10:17-21, like so many 21st century Americans, identified himself with with his possessions, his things, his "stuff." (Joe, are you willing to take a vow of poverty? Are you willing to do as you said in your own words: TO RELINQUISH THE LOVE OF "THINGS" AND A LUST FOR "STUFF"?)

Eternal life is found only in Jesus. Mark notes the rich man's response and comments that he had many "possessions." Jesus' command to impoverish himself (does this command apply to religious leaders Joe?), to jettison the stuff of his life in favor of following Jesus (verse 21), flew into the face of the common understanding that possessing wealth was a sign of divine favor (you and many others seem to still believe and practice this "common understanding"...)


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Editor,
I'm back again, in my right mind.
I just wanted to tell you that your efforts have helped me to be able to read between the lines...
Later,
Bryan
 


Hi, I happened to stumble upon your website when I saw Garner Ted Armstrong's name on
another site and I decided to see if he was alive or in the 'wonderful world
tomorrow' or in petra. I was in the 'church from 1974 until 1982, and
having not suffered enough knocks, I married someone who had been raised
from a baby in 'the church'. I was then baptized and was in it from 1992
until 1996. I am finally able to see it for what it is. The impact it had
on my life was devastating and I am 'just a little bitter'. Finding your
website is terrific and I am sure that I will may be meet others who are in
the same boat as I. I am middle-aged and am finally convinced that I can get
a college degree without the world ending in the middle of it.
Thanks Michelle from Alberta, Canada


Today I "stumbled" across your website and it sure stirred some painful memories.

In October 1968, at the impressionable age of 15, I read the pamphlet 1975 In Prophecy with all its horrific imagery and Basil Wolverton illustrations and became convinced that I was living in the "End Time" and that the Great Tribulation would begin in 1972, to be followed by Christ's return in 1975 after the way had been prepared by Herbert W. Armstrong and the Church Of God.
I eagerly joined this movement at the tender (impressionable) age of 16 and began sending in my monthly donation and refusing to help with the family farm work on Saturdays.
I began to suspect that, when the "Great Tribulation" did not begin in 1972, something was not adding up here, and I left the movement gradually. There was no sudden moment of revelation, but rather a gradual realization that "These people, too, are human beings." Garner Ted's own personal crisis after the 1972 no-show only served to reinforce my decision. By 1973, I was through.

I now realize that life is a Great Mystery which I'll never figure out, and even take some comfort in the fact that you can't know the answers for sure.

Anyway, I wish you all the best on you own personal quest.

David


Hello,
My name is Leigh and I want to tell you that I am enjoying all the articles and letters that is contained in The Painful Truth. How aptly it's entitled. I have been out of the cult now for 6 years and sometimes it has not been easy. It is hard to become un-brainwashed if you have lived all your life with a certain fallacy. Such is my case. I grew up listening to HWA ( Hog-Wash-Association) on the radio and was fully indoctrinated to the fact that he was a ( "the") man of God in our time. So after sowing a few young oats, I married and had children. Then, I became serious in the effort to ensure that my family and myself would not have to go through the horrors of "the Tribulation" and I began down the long journey of abuse in the cult--just for the hope of survival from the physical Tribulation and the spiritual destruction of the LAKE OF FIRE!!!!! Well to make a long story short, I am disgusted about it all. I hate that I was taken in by these freeloading S.O.B.s Never again!

Keep writing.
Leigh


Dear Editor,
Thanks for a great website, and one I'm sure is a Godsend (no pun intended) for recovering members of the WCoG.
A personal story;
I used to read "The Plain Truth" in the late 60's, at around the time Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin walked on the moon. I remember they had an issue with a space rocket on the cover, and also a booklet called the "Seven Laws of Success" which I liked I was very pious back then.
However, as I was only eleven or twelve at the time, I was living at home and my Dad stopped my subscription because he didn't much care for TPT and (although it was free) he feared being billed for it in the future. I was sad at the time but a few years later Herbie came to London and spent #5,000 on gold-leaf dinner plates in one of our top stores, which was the price of a family saloon car (you would say "sedan") in England back then. That's when I began to realize that he wasn't all he seemed.
I suppose I wanted to believe in his "vision" of a world under the rule of God. I think I had a lucky escape! Best wishes for the future, and I hope those so-and-so's see the inside of a courtroom before too long.
Regards,
GRAHAM

REPLY:

GRAHAM,

Thanks for your message. I think a lot of us wanted to believe what Armstrong was saying was true. We turned our brains off and followed like robots. You are lucky that you had a father that was afraid of being billed for it in the future. The "bill" was a very big one for those of us that swallowed Armstrong's delusions.

Good luck to you.

Editor


I just have a couple of questions concerning the book, Herbert Armstrong's Tangled Web. I hear the book is out of print and soon may be very hard to find. I have access to a friend's copy and I hope to scan this thing over time into some text files for my own use. Unfortunately, I don't have the time for such a project. Is it possible that someone else may have the same idea and has already done it? And if so, is it available somewhere on the internet?

Thanks again for keeping this site up.

Joe

REPLY:

The book is Copyright protected and the person that has the copyright is
very protective of it. It is not available on the Internet.

Editor


 

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